Thank so much for getting into the dual relationship issue and for going deeper into all about transference. I hope you mark this pod cast as “The Transference Episode” for hypnotists to easily find since this is not something we are schooled very thoroughly on and it sounds like perhaps we ought to be. In light of you being on the ethics committee of the NGH you will be clearly better able than I to decide if that is a good idea.
Also, you started to talk about why it wasn’t a good idea for clients to meet up, but you got sidetracked, or did you say it and I missed it? Anyway, client’s getting together for group self hypnosis, or for a self growth type book club without the hypnotist there, I suppose, also would also not be a good idea?
Many viewers who are going to the NGH convention will be VERY pleased to hear some of your “picks” for trainers and teachers at the convention. There are so many classes and it’s difficult to choose sometimes.
Probably the best description I have ever seen of ethical concerns with regard to dual relationships as they relate specifically to the hypnosis profession. I like that the exploitative possibilities were described as well.
It is important for hypnotists to decide where they draw the line. I personally try to avoid doing work with anyone I would see in any other context at all, such as the person at the gas station or where I get my coffee etc. That is my ideal anyway. I realize this can be hard for hypnotists far removed from metropolitan areas, such as all the way up in Snowdrift, Mn for example.
Cal,
I've been listening to your podcasts for awhile now. I am fairly new to hypnosis and do not practice at all. I am reading Dave Elman's book right now and love it. The trouble is I work full time and have a family so if i were to seriously think about hypnotherapy, who would I start practicing on? the other thing is that in a couple of previous podcasts you talk about stage hypnosis and if it's good for the profession. that was my first introduction to hypnosis. i was on stage and the hypnotist had me the most relaxed i had ever been in my life and i loved it!!! I talked to him through facebook and he said if I get trained, be sure to go through someone that is a member of the ngh. That hypnotist's name is Frederick Winters and he seems to have the best interest of hypnosis in mind.
WEll, I already wrote one comment but you've got me thinking ...here are some more questions....
1. Who would a hypnotist go to for hypnosis work ? For myself, I would personally feel comfortable having certain of my hypno-friend-colleagues help me if I needed it. I'd be nervous about going to a stranger.
2. I often see some of my FB hypnotist friends writing posts that encourage FB friends to set up a phone or skype or in person appointment for hypnosis with them. What are your thoughts on that?
3. Would you say that the guideline is flexible depending on the situation? For example, doing 5path in depth hypnotherapy with someone vs. someone who just wanted a session and CD with suggestions for relaxation for pre-op? Your thoughts?
Celeste –I recommend that hypnotherapists don’t get into any kind of situation outside of their office, meet-ups or otherwise that can be construed as “social”. I would also not recommend getting your clients together for meet-ups. For one reason, if you have a problem with one of them, some kind of dispute or misunderstanding, then that one person can cause trouble for you among the others. The exception to all of this would be 7th Path Self-Hypnosis meet-ups. There your role would be as a teacher not a therapist.
Rob – Thanks for your kind comments about the podcast. I sometime wonder how we are going to continue talking about hypnosis forever, but we always come up with some interesting topics. I guess we are just lucky to have such an interesting profession.
Tom – Thanks for your comment. I believe I used your question about who to practice on and covered it in an upcoming podcast. Here is a short answer… If you are doing direct suggestion only hypnosis, and realize that your previous relationship with the person you are practicing may cause problems, for example because they are not taking it seriously, then go ahead and practice on whoever. But you don’t want to practice on family and friends doing “therapy” such as age regression work. However, you can practice your age regression skills with friends and family by regression to fun times in the past. You will get your chance to practice your skills and they will have a great time as well.
Debbie - Here is the main thing, we always have to keep our client’s, or potential clients’, or our past clients’ best interests first. Preferably in every case we should have only a professional relationship with our clients. Hypnotists who want to get hypnosis work done should do the same as anyone else. They should find the best person then can and work with them, and avoid dual relationships. I understand that in smaller communities this can be a problem. If there is no other way for an individual to get services than to work with someone with whom they already have a relationship, then the work can be done, but both need to be aware of the dangers and do everything that they can to move forward successfully while being mindful of those potential problems. I don’t see facebook friends as being any different.
Like I said above, doing uncovering work (in other words) is a lot more problematic than just doing direct suggestion work. But it is best to stay away from all dual relationships in all parts of your life. I wouldn’t even have a friend or family member work for me, or contract to work on my house, or anything. What you decide to do is up to you. You have been warned/informed of the potential dangers. ?
Thanks for the comments and questions everyone. There is a new video coming out tomorrow!
Remember to say “hello” if you see me at the NGH Convention in August!
Celeste Hackett says
Thank so much for getting into the dual relationship issue and for going deeper into all about transference. I hope you mark this pod cast as “The Transference Episode” for hypnotists to easily find since this is not something we are schooled very thoroughly on and it sounds like perhaps we ought to be. In light of you being on the ethics committee of the NGH you will be clearly better able than I to decide if that is a good idea.
Also, you started to talk about why it wasn’t a good idea for clients to meet up, but you got sidetracked, or did you say it and I missed it? Anyway, client’s getting together for group self hypnosis, or for a self growth type book club without the hypnotist there, I suppose, also would also not be a good idea?
Many viewers who are going to the NGH convention will be VERY pleased to hear some of your “picks” for trainers and teachers at the convention. There are so many classes and it’s difficult to choose sometimes.
Thanks again for a great podcast Cal!
Rob says
Probably the best description I have ever seen of ethical concerns with regard to dual relationships as they relate specifically to the hypnosis profession. I like that the exploitative possibilities were described as well.
It is important for hypnotists to decide where they draw the line. I personally try to avoid doing work with anyone I would see in any other context at all, such as the person at the gas station or where I get my coffee etc. That is my ideal anyway. I realize this can be hard for hypnotists far removed from metropolitan areas, such as all the way up in Snowdrift, Mn for example.
Tom says
Cal,
I've been listening to your podcasts for awhile now. I am fairly new to hypnosis and do not practice at all. I am reading Dave Elman's book right now and love it. The trouble is I work full time and have a family so if i were to seriously think about hypnotherapy, who would I start practicing on? the other thing is that in a couple of previous podcasts you talk about stage hypnosis and if it's good for the profession. that was my first introduction to hypnosis. i was on stage and the hypnotist had me the most relaxed i had ever been in my life and i loved it!!! I talked to him through facebook and he said if I get trained, be sure to go through someone that is a member of the ngh. That hypnotist's name is Frederick Winters and he seems to have the best interest of hypnosis in mind.
Thanks
Tom
Debbie says
WEll, I already wrote one comment but you've got me thinking ...here are some more questions....
1. Who would a hypnotist go to for hypnosis work ? For myself, I would personally feel comfortable having certain of my hypno-friend-colleagues help me if I needed it. I'd be nervous about going to a stranger.
2. I often see some of my FB hypnotist friends writing posts that encourage FB friends to set up a phone or skype or in person appointment for hypnosis with them. What are your thoughts on that?
3. Would you say that the guideline is flexible depending on the situation? For example, doing 5path in depth hypnotherapy with someone vs. someone who just wanted a session and CD with suggestions for relaxation for pre-op? Your thoughts?
I'm sure more questions will pop up....
Debbie
Cal says
Celeste –I recommend that hypnotherapists don’t get into any kind of situation outside of their office, meet-ups or otherwise that can be construed as “social”. I would also not recommend getting your clients together for meet-ups. For one reason, if you have a problem with one of them, some kind of dispute or misunderstanding, then that one person can cause trouble for you among the others. The exception to all of this would be 7th Path Self-Hypnosis meet-ups. There your role would be as a teacher not a therapist.
Rob – Thanks for your kind comments about the podcast. I sometime wonder how we are going to continue talking about hypnosis forever, but we always come up with some interesting topics. I guess we are just lucky to have such an interesting profession.
Tom – Thanks for your comment. I believe I used your question about who to practice on and covered it in an upcoming podcast. Here is a short answer… If you are doing direct suggestion only hypnosis, and realize that your previous relationship with the person you are practicing may cause problems, for example because they are not taking it seriously, then go ahead and practice on whoever. But you don’t want to practice on family and friends doing “therapy” such as age regression work. However, you can practice your age regression skills with friends and family by regression to fun times in the past. You will get your chance to practice your skills and they will have a great time as well.
Debbie - Here is the main thing, we always have to keep our client’s, or potential clients’, or our past clients’ best interests first. Preferably in every case we should have only a professional relationship with our clients. Hypnotists who want to get hypnosis work done should do the same as anyone else. They should find the best person then can and work with them, and avoid dual relationships. I understand that in smaller communities this can be a problem. If there is no other way for an individual to get services than to work with someone with whom they already have a relationship, then the work can be done, but both need to be aware of the dangers and do everything that they can to move forward successfully while being mindful of those potential problems. I don’t see facebook friends as being any different.
Like I said above, doing uncovering work (in other words) is a lot more problematic than just doing direct suggestion work. But it is best to stay away from all dual relationships in all parts of your life. I wouldn’t even have a friend or family member work for me, or contract to work on my house, or anything. What you decide to do is up to you. You have been warned/informed of the potential dangers. ?
Thanks for the comments and questions everyone. There is a new video coming out tomorrow!
Remember to say “hello” if you see me at the NGH Convention in August!
Let’s do GREAT things together,
Cal