I agree with Cal. Less Government, both State and Federal, the better. Having been involved in professions requiring licensure, you are asking for regulations which you will have not contemplated completely, and most assuredly do not want.
Licensing is about control, nothing more. If you seek control, understand you need a large enough group to control. When Hypnotists get to a grouping of 200,000+, it might pay to form an SRO. To do it now would kill the profession or at the very least stud its growth.
Hypnotism needs some time to disseminate its benefits and flourish a bit.
Elronn, in time this profession will be licensed as others, I have no doubt. Maybe you can organize and run the SRO.
As I said, having the profession licensed right at this minute is not a good idea. However, if in the future it is still a free for all like it is now I think that would be a bad thing. Like anything else, there are many problems that are created by the apparent "solution" to make a black and white case. I think that some basic regulations would be all that is necessary to weed out some of the crack pot trainings out there and promote competition between certification boards to have better standards. As it is, mostly all hypnosis schools are on a pass fail basis where everyone passes!!!
I have to say that I agree with you though, being that there are simply not enough Hypnotherapists out there right now to warrant state regulations. At this point time, unfortunately, it would do more harm than good.
What you said Elron about it all coming down to marketing really strikes a chord with me. There is something about hypnosis marketing that makes me cringe at a very deep level and I could never quite put my finger on why that is. I might have to go and get some sessions myself for this.
I also think the 125 hours is really just the beginning of the training. In 5 PATH for example, going over products like the entire BOLSM set a few times on your own must count for at least 500 extra hours of study.
Hi Cal & Elron
I enjoyed your debate it made me smile:)
Seriously though, when something is overseen by any government it is open to manipulation and corruption, based on the interests (usually financial) of parties concerned. What a thing to happen to the profession as a whole and it would'nt be the first profession it's happened to.
I agree training schools probably should be monitored by some sort of organisational body of hypnotists who know what they are talking about (representing a diversity of types of hypnosis so things are kept fresh). I don't think here (in the UK) you can get insurured without proper accreditation (I could be wrong).
Also people with only three days training might find it difficult to build a successful reputation if their clients problems return, (like taking the head off a dandelion and not removing the root) and in that case they may not last long anyway. OR -:) they could do just the opposite it may depend on what other qualities and experience they already have.
Best wishes Adriana
Cal Banyan says
I just confirmed that Elronn IS going to be at the National Guild of Hypnotists convention. Make sure you say "hi" to him while you are there. 🙂
Cal Banyan, MA, BCH, CI, FNGH says
Oooops, I meant the NGH Solid Gold Weekend. TGIF!
We are going to have to work on Elronn a bit more to get him to commit to going to the convention. 🙂
Dave says
Good topics and subject matter.
I agree with Cal. Less Government, both State and Federal, the better. Having been involved in professions requiring licensure, you are asking for regulations which you will have not contemplated completely, and most assuredly do not want.
Licensing is about control, nothing more. If you seek control, understand you need a large enough group to control. When Hypnotists get to a grouping of 200,000+, it might pay to form an SRO. To do it now would kill the profession or at the very least stud its growth.
Hypnotism needs some time to disseminate its benefits and flourish a bit.
Elronn, in time this profession will be licensed as others, I have no doubt. Maybe you can organize and run the SRO.
Best,
Dave
Elronn says
As I said, having the profession licensed right at this minute is not a good idea. However, if in the future it is still a free for all like it is now I think that would be a bad thing. Like anything else, there are many problems that are created by the apparent "solution" to make a black and white case. I think that some basic regulations would be all that is necessary to weed out some of the crack pot trainings out there and promote competition between certification boards to have better standards. As it is, mostly all hypnosis schools are on a pass fail basis where everyone passes!!!
I have to say that I agree with you though, being that there are simply not enough Hypnotherapists out there right now to warrant state regulations. At this point time, unfortunately, it would do more harm than good.
Elronn
Rob MacInnes says
Another great podcast.
What you said Elron about it all coming down to marketing really strikes a chord with me. There is something about hypnosis marketing that makes me cringe at a very deep level and I could never quite put my finger on why that is. I might have to go and get some sessions myself for this.
I also think the 125 hours is really just the beginning of the training. In 5 PATH for example, going over products like the entire BOLSM set a few times on your own must count for at least 500 extra hours of study.
Adriana says
Hi Cal & Elron
I enjoyed your debate it made me smile:)
Seriously though, when something is overseen by any government it is open to manipulation and corruption, based on the interests (usually financial) of parties concerned. What a thing to happen to the profession as a whole and it would'nt be the first profession it's happened to.
I agree training schools probably should be monitored by some sort of organisational body of hypnotists who know what they are talking about (representing a diversity of types of hypnosis so things are kept fresh). I don't think here (in the UK) you can get insurured without proper accreditation (I could be wrong).
Also people with only three days training might find it difficult to build a successful reputation if their clients problems return, (like taking the head off a dandelion and not removing the root) and in that case they may not last long anyway. OR -:) they could do just the opposite it may depend on what other qualities and experience they already have.
Best wishes Adriana
wayne says
thanks for all that food for thought.
interesting stuff to think about